This week's Monday Mailbag theme is spicy. I don't know why, but that's the theme. Your Nevada basketball team is 18-1 and ranked seventh in the nation, but you've got some grievances to air, so let's air them. And I do think there are so many critical questions of this team despite its gaudy record because everybody understands the potential this group has and nobody wants to see the season end anywhere but the Final Four. Alas, it is tough to get to that place. Thanks, as always, for the inquiries.
(Note: If you're not seeing the tweets, it's probably because you're not using Google Chrome. Use Google Chrome).
I received some variation of this question all Saturday night after Brown played seven first-half minutes against Air Force, making 2-of-3 shots with two rebounds, before not playing in the second half. This has basically been Brown's usage formula for most of the last six weeks. A solid bit of run in the first half; no minutes in the second half.
Coach Eric Musselman was asked about Brown's playing time after the game. Here is how the exchange went.
Reporter: Why isn't Jordan Brown getting more minutes? He played a little in the first half but not in the second.
Musselman: "Jordan's done a great job, he's working hard in practice. We're 18-1. We have a lot of fifth-year seniors. We have to keep getting better defensively as a group switching on pick-and-rolls. But Jordan has done a great job, he has a great attitude and he has an incredibly bright future."
Reporter: Do you think he's going to play more time down the stretch?
Musselman: "I don't know who's going to play. I don't know who's going to play tomorrow. Next question."
And then we moved on to the next question. It's clearly a sore spot. This was the first "Next Question!" of Musselman's Nevada tenure.
From a Sports Illustrated article last week, Musselman had a reputation in the NBA of preferring veterans over youngsters. It writes:
"In the NBA, Musselman had a reputation of being tough to deal with. In Golden State, he clashed with management over his preference to play veterans over younger players. “He’s a very straightforward guy,” St. Jean said. “There’s no debate about his basketball knowledge. The basketball stuff, he checks all the boxes. But you have to feel comfortable with him.”
The St. Jean quoted is Garry St. Jean, who hired Musselman as the Warriors' head coach. Musselman clearly prefers vets, which is why he's leaned on transfers in recruiting and why freshmen outside of Cameron Oliver and Lindsey Drew in year one (when Nevada had no other options) have struggled to get in the Wolf Pack's rotation. Brown is sixth on the team in PER, second in field-goal percentage, fifth in effective shooting percentage, third in true rebounding rate, second in block percentage and fifth in steal percentage. Turnovers have been an issue and the ball has been sticky in his hands, but there's no question he's one of Nevada's best offensive players. There's also no question Nevada is struggling on offense.
If you earn your minutes by being productive in games, Brown has done that. He's been one of Nevada's top-five players on a per-minute basis. But he's outside the circle of trust for now. I think it comes down to defense. When asked about Brown, his quote above reads, "We have to keep getting better defensively as a group switching on pick-and-rolls." That came moments after saying Nevada was a "great defensive team." Reading between the lines, Musselman is basically indicating Brown has to get better defensively on pick-and-rolls.
The interesting thing is Brown is second on the team in defensive rating, per Basketball Reference, but Musselman did note earlier this month the Wolf Pack has its own defensive grading system and its rankings are basically the complete opposite of Synergy, a popular basketball analytics site. Perhaps Brown does not rate highly in Nevada's defensive metrics and/or in practice drills. I've said from the start I'd like to see Brown get more minutes so he's at his peak in March even if that costs Nevada a game or two in the regular season. Musselman's approach has always been to do what is required to win that night's games. It's micro-thinking versus macro-thinking. One is not necessarily better than the other. Nevada is 18-1. Nobody can complain about that. But if the Wolf Pack goes out of the NCAA Tournament early and it's because of offensive struggles, people could point at Brown's usage.
I'd also note Musselman's preference is to play versatile wings rather than bigs, which is part of the reason Trey Porter is a distant sixth in minutes played despite being the team's third-most productive player on a per-minute basis. It's hard to complain about an 18-1 start, but when you land a five-star recruit and play that signing up big on social media, fans expect to see that player get lots of minutes and if he's not playing, they're going to ask why. Nevada has experienced high-end talent, but I also figured Brown would get more than 10.2 minutes per game this season, which is what he's getting.
When Jordan Brown committed to Nevada, I'm sure he envisioned playing 25-30 minutes a night at power forward, which is why the addition of Porter at center in the offseason was dubbed as such an important move. Instead, Brown is playing 7-10 minutes a night as the backup center. Would you be happy about that? I don't think so. That being said, Brown has not created any rifts and does seem like a team-first guy. He's not a big-ego McDonald's All-American. Is there a chance he transfers? Sure. There's a chance every player transfers. But I don't believe the odds are high.
As for the coaching staff wardrobe, polos are more comfortable than suits and ties. I'd wear a polo, too, if I could. I don't recall any old rule in the WAC requiring a suit and tie. Hawaii's coaches never wore suits and ties when the Rainbow Warriors were in the WAC.
5 percent. The dude is trying to get to the NBA. Transferring and having to sit out a season only delays that. Plus, Nevada is losing basically its entire team after this season. It'd be a shock if Brown doesn't get 25-plus minutes next season. I'm sure he wanted more minutes this season, but those should be available next year, which would be better than sitting out somewhere else. Same reason Luke Babbitt didn't transfer after Mark Fox left Nevada following one season together (and teams were all over him, which is indeed illegal). If Babbitt did transfer, he was delaying his timeline to get to the NBA. Now, if Musselman leaves Nevada for another job, Brown's odds of transferring go up. But I think you'll see him in silver and blue next season, and I'm excited to see what he can do with extended minutes.
In the press conferences I've attended, he's been asked about Jordan Brown's playing time maybe twice. He's not getting drilled with those questions in interviews, but it is all over social media. As for the zone, the questions are more about Nevada's 3-point shooting. That's basically been asked at every press conference because Nevada keeps shooting a lot of threes and keeps missing a lot of threes. It might be irritating, but it is a main theme to Nevada's offensive struggles, so the questions are valid even if they're redundant.
What in the hell country do we live in? The United States of America, dammit. Fans are surely entitled to free speech and free criticism. I kind of compare it to America in general. You can love and enjoy the country you live in and still be critical of some of its shortcomings (mass incarceration, racial inequalities, wealth concentration, failing health care, declining education rankings, outrageous college costs, etc.). Same with the Nevada basketball team. You can love the team but also be critical of some of the decisions or weaknesses. You also can be absolutely flabbergasted with appreciation for the job Musselman has done at Nevada, which one could argue is the best four-year start in college basketball history given what Musselman inherited (a dumpster fire).
You don't have to pick one or the another. You can love Musselman, his staff and his team and also be critical of some moves. Nevada is 126th in the nation in offensive efficiency over its last 10 games. It had the No. 1 offense in the preseason Ken Pom metrics but is down to No. 24 this season. There's an issue on offense that needs to be fixed.
"There's growth in the program because we won by 15 and I'm not happy at all," Musselman said after Saturday's Air Force win.
See, you can both be happy with where the program is but critical of portions of its current play. And trust me, the criticism from Wolf Pack fans is relatively muted compared to other schools. Just look at UCLA, which might make a run at Musselman this offseason. Ben Howland got to three straight Final Fours and won 233 games with four Pac-12 titles over 10 years with the Bruins, including seven NCAA Tournament berths. He was run out of town. Nevada fans are relatively tame when it comes to criticism. If you go to a Power 5 school, you're going to get it a lot rougher than you do in Reno.
But criticisms are amplified in the social media environment we live in today when you can literally tag a coach in a tweet and tell him he's doing something wrong. Coaches have to tune that stuff out just as players do.
Nevada came in at No. 7 in the AP and coaches poll today. If the Wolf Pack was 19-0 instead of 18-1, it surely would have some first-place votes. It was second on three ballots before its first loss and you would be talking about five more wins since that point. But I don't think it'd be No. 1 overall. Tennessee and Virginia both would be hard to jump at this stage given Nevada's lack of Quad 1 wins. It'd probably be fourth behind Tennessee, Duke and Virginia with a couple of first-place tallies.
Fun question. I do think Josh Hall would be getting solid minutes on this team. I didn't think that would be the case going into the season if he didn't transfer, but Nevada's depth has not been as deep as we thought it'd be. While he struggled to get into Musselman's circle of trust until Lindsey Drew tore his Achilles last season, Hall would likely be stealing some minutes from Corey Henson, Jazz Johnson and Tre'Shawn Thurman and would be playing 15-20 minutes a night. Like you said, Hall had a great knack for finding open spaces in the zone and he had great touch around the rim. He also was a solid offensive rebounder (second on the team last season; would be third on the team this year), which Nevada could use. He'd be a key piece, an inside zone buster.
What would limit his minutes would be his 3-point shooting. Nevada needs to have Johnson or Henson on the court to stretch the floor. Unless Hall made improvements from three, his minutes would have had a ceiling. If he did make improvements from three, he could be a starter. But Hall, a career 32.9 percent 3-point shooter, finished last season hitting just three of his final 29 threes. He basically abandoned that shot after the early portion of the season, which was a smart move. Hall's minutes would have hinged to some degree on how well he was shooting the three, but he would have had a role for sure.
Yes. As we noted in a previous Mailbag, the MW player of the year vote is based solely on conference action. In MW games, Caroline is averaging 17.3 points, 10 rebounds and 2.3 assists while shooting 48.7 percent from the field, including 38.5 percent from three. He's the dude. Also, it will likely come down to who Nevada nominates. You can nominate one player per team for MW player of the year. So, the Wolf Pack should be able to pick the MW player of the year with its nomination. Right now, it has to be Caroline. He's not just a front runner. He's the heavy front runner.
Low. Like 10 percent. Caleb Martin has the high school pedigree (which matters), was invited to the NBA combine and Nike Skills Academy (didn't attend that one), got twice as many NBA workouts as Caroline last offseason, is on more draft boards/rankings and has a more natural position fit. This does not mean he will for sure be the better pro. But he will be more highly ranked going into the draft. I'm still not sure any Wolf Pack player makes an NBA roster next season, although Steve Lappas is confident Martin will be a good NBA player.
Luck is going to play a big factor in whether the Martin twins and Caroline make it in the league. When you're a fringe prospect, luck plays a big part. They could be Ramon Sessions and stick for a decade as a late second round pick. They could be Armon Johnson and get only a year or two. Or they could be Cameron Oliver grinding it out in the G League trying to get the call. (And the way Oliver has been playing of late, he deserves a call this season).
Nevada is on the border of a three seed/four seed, so the over/under is 3.5. The computers don't like Nevada as much as the humans. And given its current level of play, the Wolf Pack would be fortunate to get to the Sweet 16, but there's a lot of season left. Who knows how the team will be playing in mid-March and who knows which teams the Wolf Pack will draw. I imagine Nevada will be playing much better in eight weeks than it is today given how good of a coach Musselman is. For what it's worth, ESPN's BPI gives Nevada a 36.4 percent chance of getting to the Sweet 16. It's really hard to get to the Sweet 16.
How far can Nevada make it? The Wolf Pack can make it to the Final Four if its hitting its threes because it has an excellent defense. But they're not playing like a top-10 team right now. Caleb Martin was asked that very question Saturday and said they're not playing like a top-10 team.
"No," he said, "Not at all. We don't get to play against ranked opponents like Duke and Carolina and them all the time. It's hard to kind of measure where you're at when you don't play those caliber of teams. Obviously I think we can play a lot better, especially offensively. Defensively, I think we're doing great. We're doing good. We're really solid. We have really good help-side and we have good rim protection and we're keeping guys in front of us. I think we're defending well. Once we bring the offensive piece together, I think we'll be in good shape."
I agree. Nevada is playing defense like a top-10 team but it is not playing offense like a top-10 team. The Wolf Pack is ranked in the top 10 because that's where it started the season and it hasn't lost many games. Nevada is 22nd in NET; 19th in KenPom; and 20th in ESPN's BPI. It's a for-sure Top 25 team, but the computer rankings don't have it anywhere near the No. 7 ranking it currently sits at. That's why the selection committee's treatment of Nevada will be one of the most interesting story lines of Selection Sunday.
I'd love to see. There's no way of knowing until we see how Nevada would fare in that situation. They certainly have the talent and experience to match up with those kinds of teams when they play well. But if Nevada played Duke on Saturday instead of Air Force, it would have lost by 20. That's the benefit of playing in the MW. You can have an off night and skate by. Nevada hasn't been as dominant in MW play as you'd expect. It's scoring margin in MW games is plus-10.2 points per game, which is good. But Gonzaga is in a similar conference and is plus-25.6 points per game in the WCC. That's what mid-majors have to do to opponents to truly be thought of as a threat against the nation's top teams. Hopefully Nevada gets a chance to prove it is in that class in the NCAA Tournament.
1) It depends on what other teams did, but that's unlikely. Nevada will likely have only two Quad 1 games on its schedule by season's end. Most top-10 teams have 10-14 such games.
2) I do not think this will happen. I, however, will see if I can set up a game of Smash Bros. with you on the Switch with my 10-year-old daughter.
I did a Sunday List on this three years ago and the top 10 were:
1. Larry Johnson
2. Shawn Marion
3. Paul George
4. Hank Gathers
5. Ty Lawson
6. Armen Gilliam
7. Paul Millsap
8. Stacey Augmon
9. Rick Fox
10. Ryan Anderson
Others considered included: Danny Green, Tyron Lue, Greg Anthony, Tyler Hansbrough and Rafer Alston. Hansbrough, Gathers and Johnson are the best college players to grace Lawlor. George might end up the best player to ever play in Lawlor.
I have never personally seen Cody Martin throw up at halftime, but Musselman said last season (and I wrote) that Martin does indeed throw up at halftime of every game due to nerves and how hard he plays. I imagine that pattern hasn't changed this season if he was in fact doing that last year. Caleb Martin also was apparently puking Friday due to an illness but he battled through Saturday's game. And that's it for the Martin barfing talk in today's Mailbag.
Under. Four is the absolute max those conferences will get, and that'd require Nevada and Gonzaga to lose in the conference tournaments. Fresno State, Utah State, San Francisco and Saint Mary's all have at-large aspirations, but I just don't see that happening barring a crazy run to end the season. They'll need to win the conference tournaments.
It depends how many games you expect Nevada to play. Let's say 35 (31 regular season, three in the MW Tournament, one in the NCAA Tournament). Thirty-five would be more or less the minimum number of games Nevada plays this season. That puts Nevada on pace for 912 3-pointer attempts this season. The school record is 904 set last season. The previous high before that was 837, which came two years ago. The previous high before that was 658, which came three years ago. So the top four 3-point attempt seasons in school history will be Musselman's four seasons at the team's head coach. He gives the green light. (The record pre-Muss was 642 in 2011-12).
Lots of threes. Lets say 27. Colorado State's defense is horrible, the worst in the MW, and the Rams allow opponents to shoot 37.2 percent from the 3-point line on 26.1 attempts per game. Nevada very well could have a good shooting night. And while Musselman said he wants his team to take fewer threes, Caleb Martin was more of the mindset Nevada just needs to start hitting more threes rather than taking fewer of them, especially if teams are going to continue to zone Nevada.
His mechanics look the same to me. They're not traditional mechanics. There's a bit of a hitch and his leg kicks out, but they went in last year. He is taking harder shots this season, which is probably the biggest reason his percentage is down, but he hit a lot of low-percentage shots last season, too. He's a good high-degree-of-difficulty shooter. While his 3-pointer is off, he has increased his two-point shooting (54 percent, up from 50.6 percent the year prior) and has been a much better defensive player. His win shares per 40 minutes is actually up. The two things scouts most wanted to see this season from Martin was improved defense and a cleaner shooting form. He's got one out of two.
Y'all should have listened to me. I tweeted before the season started Nevada's defense would be better than expected but its offense would be worse (And. I. Have. The. Receipts.) Nevada isn't getting to the Final Four (i.e. carry them past the second weekend of games in March) with this caliber of offense. The Wolf Pack has had six really good offensive games this season (Pacific, UMass, Tulsa, Loyola Chicago, Utah, Fresno State). In those six games, Caleb Martin averaged 22.3 ppg on 46 percent shooting, including 39 percent from three. In the other 13 games, he's averaging 14.7 ppg on 35.9 percent shooting, including 28.3 percent from three. It's overly simplistic, but when Caleb Martin plays like an All-American Nevada's offense (and team) is elite. When he doesn't, Nevada is vulnerable. I think he knows that. I think he can handle that pressure.
I'm pretty sure he's frustrated about that, too.
Both. It is not a great shooting team and it is in a slump. In MW games, Nevada has only two players shooting better than 28.6 percent from three: Jordan Caroline (38.5 percent) and Corey Henson (36.4 percent). Jazz Johnson couldn't miss earlier this season but is hitting only 28.6 percent from three in MW play, his surgically repaired sore right shoulder probably playing a factor. Nevada is shooting 27.6 percent from three in MW play. It shot 35.2 percent from three in non-conference. Its baseline is probably around 33 percent. But Nevada's offense has remained competent because it doesn't turn the ball over and it gets to the free throw line a lot. If it doesn't do one of those things on a given night, it struggles on offense.
And looking ahead to next year, Nevada needs to add some shooting. Yes, the Wolf Pack returns Johnson and Lindsey Drew (36.2 percent career shooter from three) and perhaps Nisré Zouzoua finds the stroke he had at Bryant. But the other returners include JoJo Anderson (32.4 percent career shooter from three), Jalen Harris (35.4 percent career shooter from three) and bigs Brown and Hymes. Nevada adds Shamiel Stevenson (16 made threes in 36 game) and Eric Parrish (32.4 percent career shooter from three), but outside of Johnson there aren't any snipers on the roster. I imagine at least one scholarship goes to such a player.
Per ESPN's BPI, the only teams in the nation with a better chance of winning the national title than losing in the first round are Virginia, Duke, Gonzaga and Michigan State. Everybody else has a better shot of losing in the first round than winning the crown. Nevada "only" has a 63.3 percent of getting to the Round of 32 in those metrics (that's a 36.7 percent chance of losing in the first round) compared to a 0.4 percent chance of winning the title.
I don't know of any specifics, but I did hear something was in the works and it was spearheaded by the boosters. Nevada should be doing everything it can to show appreciation for what Musselman has built here. It can only aid in the quest to keep him here as long as possible.
I literally get this question every season with a different member of the current staff. I got it with Dave Rice. I got it with Johnny Jones. I got it with Rex Walters. If Nevada were to lose Musselman, I'd be surprised if Nevada hired from within. And if it did, I think it'd go with assistant Gus Argenal. But I'm almost 100 percent sure it would go outside of the Wolf Pack tree.
Pretty sure all of those spots are sponsored, which means Nevada is getting money to do them. It takes money to keep great coaches like Musselman, and the Wolf Pack has to maximize every opportunity available to raise that money. There's new signage all over Lawlor (under the benches, under the scoreboard, on the walls, etc). College sports are businesses pure and simple.
In my preseason NFL predictions, I wrote "Los Angeles wins the Super Bowl over New England, with defensive tackle Aaron Donald being the game’s MVP." So I'll stick with that. Let's go Rams 28, Patriots 27. But we all know the game will come down to the refs and the soccer kickers just like the AFC and NFC title games. And there will be somewhere between three and five fourth-quarter reviews to increase the number of commercials aired.
For starters, Nevada's home game against UNLV is Feb. 27 rather than Jan. 29. The Wolf Pack has posted three of the top 12 attendances in Lawlor's history this season (Nos. 10, 11 and 12 to be exact). The record is 11,841 against UNLV in 2017, the game where Big Mike Buffer did the pre-game introductions. Lawlor's capacity is 11,536, so I have no idea how that game had 305 more fans than capacity. I understand standing-room only for a baseball or football game since there is lots of empty space in those stadiums. I don't get it so much for basketball arenas. But Nevada has three times gone over Lawlor's capacity in its history, so it could happen again. Other than Wednesday's game against Colorado State, every contest for the rest of the year is sold out, so I'd guess the Wolf Pack pushes for an all-time single-game attendance record in one of those contests. And I would guess the standing-room only number hinges on student attendance, so get them to go to the game and you might break that record.
Nevada was at 13 scholarships before Vincent Lee transferred and Shamiel Stevenson took his scholarship. Mike Lewis II is walking on this semester as a result because Nevada is flush at the NCAA max of 13. With Lindsey Drew redshirting, the Wolf Pack is losing six seniors. Three of those scholarships (Stevenson, Lewis and Eric Parrish) are filled for next season, leaving the Wolf Pack with three more scholarships to award in the 2019 class, although that number could increase if returning scholarship players choose to move on, which could happen.
The press got kicked off press row at Lawlor Events Center a few years ago (I think it was four years ago when a new ad board was put in). Those seats all go to the Wolf Pack staffers and the radio teams. The press sits behind the basket in front of the student section, but those are still excellent seats. Many schools have booted the press off the floor altogether. There are only a handful of MW schools where the press is on the floor. Those schools are Nevada, Air Force, Utah State, Boise State and San Jose State. (You're kind of on the floor at Fresno State). I'm not going to complain about the media seats at Lawlor. They're good.
As for unwritten rules, baseball's are worse, although I did learn this season not to yell in the press box when watching a baseball game on TV before a football game you are covering even starts. That is apparently something you're not supposed to do.
1) They're going to get a lot of transfers.
2) Of course I did.
3) I've never been to the Harrah's steakhouse except to interview John Smoltz once.
Air Force guys are tough, but I'll take Trey Porter. (Porter and Tomes got a little frisky in a loose-ball battle Saturday). Porter is about the most even-keeled guy off the court that you'll ever meet. But don't mess with him during games. He has an edge and mean streak on the court.
We have another first, ladies and gentlemen. After my wife submitted a Monday Mailbag question for the first time last week, it is my brother-in-law's turn to make his Monday Mailbag debut. Let's welcome J.D. Drakulich of the famous Reno Drakulichs. He is here to help you with all of your real estate needs in case you have such needs. On to the question.
1) The atomic pepper in Dumb and Dumber (who knew ketchup was a cooling agent?)
2) Eric Musselman (he was ready to go chest to chest with somebody after the Trey Porter-Sid Tomes affair)
3) The Spice Girls
The following lyrics really are underrated.
5) Me after two blueberry mojitos (I come from a line of professional drinkers, so two mojitos are not going to impact me)
I've never seen the Titan Games. Not a big fan of "The Rock." But I can guarantee you I'd win if it is a physical challenge.
Team Rankings give Nevada a 1.5 percent chance of winning the national title. ESPN's BPI gives Nevada a 0.4 percent chance of winning a national title. I'll take a public school 4A football state title, although I don't know how that happens with Bishop Gorman already great and Bishop Manogue ascending to great.
Players only have to be retired for three seasons before they can go into the Basketball Hall of Fame, so let's say Zion Williamson has a 17-year NBA career and then a three-year wait to get into the Hall of Fame. That's put him in there in September 2039. Book your tickets now.
Did I write that Musselman is "always calm?" I don't remember that. In my feature on him prior to the 2016 NCAA Tournament, I wrote, "Despite being 5-foot-7, Musselman can explode like a volcano, either on a nearby official or one of his players. After losses, his voice can be heard booming through the concrete walls of the locker room separating the players from the media, who are often plied with unfiltered criticism of his players after those defeats." The man is passionate. The man is intense. The man is spicy. The man is a Carolina Reaper, the world's hottest pepper in 2018.
Your answer: I got something called "Spicy Chicken" at Tha Joint a few months ago and it was horribly hot. So hot. So insanely hot. I'm stubborn and didn't want to waste money, so I ate most of it, but it was a nightmare. My taste buds were shot for days. Tha Joint also charged my 4-year-old an "all you can eat" price because the waiter saw him "muching" (that was his word) on one of my wife's items when she got "all you can eat." It was a rough day for the Murrays.
Your wife's answer: I do not miss going to road games. I spent 40-50 days in hotel rooms last year and missed too much time with my wife and kids that getting off the road was a big driving force in moving jobs. Yes, it is fun to be at the game for the two hours it is being played, but there's so much travel that goes into those two hours, especially in the Mountain West, that I don't miss. A game at Wyoming, for example, includes a flight from Reno to Denver with a layover in Las Vegas and then a 2.5-hour drive to Laramie and then you work for six or seven hours, sleep for a couple of hours and then drive back 2.5 hours to the airport for another flight with a layover. I don't miss that after doing it for 10 years.
The cool part is Nevada Sports Net is still staffing all the road games with reporters who do want to go to those games, so it's a win-win.
La Victoria's green sauce at the grocery store, which is somehow different than La Victoria's orange sauce at the restaurant in San Jose.
I don't like seafood.
Jalapeno poppers as long as they're wrapped in bacon.
Three. I can handle some heat.
I am not privy to the food palate of Nevada basketball players. That's not in the media guide. But I'd take Jazz Johnson there. Tough, scrappy dude.
Technically, it is Murray's Monday Mailbag, and I did do that for the alliteration. Now we just need a sponsor that starts with the letter M. How about the 3M Company? "Murray's Monday Mailbag presented by 3M" has a good ring to it (and there are three Ms in Murray's Monday Mailbag). We need to make this happen.
Sorry. My number is 867-5309.